tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post115167496847089931..comments2023-05-14T05:58:07.794-07:00Comments on Languedoc Diary: A neutral venue: Professor Davison's CreedAlan Foxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1156096962274630312006-08-20T11:02:00.000-07:002006-08-20T11:02:00.000-07:00Thanks for that link back to my post at UD. Brilli...Thanks for that link back to my post at UD. Brilliant wasn't I.<BR/>I own this blog!<BR/><BR/>Bye now.JohnADavisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273254635432654886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1155660629052479672006-08-15T09:50:00.000-07:002006-08-15T09:50:00.000-07:00Oh dear, you are correct, John. Please accept my a...Oh dear, you are correct, John. Please accept my apologies. It was Sir Patrick Bateson (grandson of a cousin of William Bateson) who made the "bird's nest" remarks in a review of Dawkins' "The Selfish Gene". Although it was possible that Gregory Bateson read and commented on Dawkins' book, as he was still working and publishing until his death in 1980.<BR/><BR/>I should have remembered <A HREF="http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/800#comment-23463" REL="nofollow">this</A> exchange with you from a while ago. (I was posting as Xavier).Alan Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1154980622412930502006-08-07T12:57:00.000-07:002006-08-07T12:57:00.000-07:00It wasn't Bateson's son Gregory either Falan Ox. G...It wasn't Bateson's son Gregory either Falan Ox. Gregory Bateson was born in 1903. It was some other shirt-tailed relative of William Bateson.<BR/><BR/>I love it so!JohnADavisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273254635432654886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1154806121737333032006-08-05T12:28:00.000-07:002006-08-05T12:28:00.000-07:00Nonsense, Pott L. Scage, It is I who agrees with t...Nonsense, Pott L. Scage, It is I who agrees with them, some of the finest biologists of two centuries. Who are your heroes, Mernst Ayr, Gephen J. Stould and Dichard Rawkins, the "Three Stooges" of evolutionary theory?<BR/><BR/>I'll just bet they are, none a scientist by the wildest stretch of the imagination!<BR/><BR/>God but this is fun!<BR/><BR/>Bye now,JohnADavisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273254635432654886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1153186599399207982006-07-17T18:36:00.000-07:002006-07-17T18:36:00.000-07:00"Since when does any author have to agree with my ..."Since when does any author have to agree with my conclusions in order to be referenced by me?"<BR/><BR/><BR/>They do not. Yet this does not stop you form heaping accolades upon them as if by elevating their status it will seem incorrect to disagree with them, at least when you can spin their statements such that it appears they are in agreement with one of your zany claims. Just like that Romer diagram...<BR/><BR/><BR/>"Pierre Grasse was the most prominent French zoologist of his generation as was Leo Berg the most prominent Russian one of his."<BR/><BR/>Oh, well, clearly whatever they have to say on any issue is absolutley correct.<BR/><BR/>Unless, of course, they do not agree with you...Doppelgangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019994267093407424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1153075276097060692006-07-16T11:41:00.000-07:002006-07-16T11:41:00.000-07:00This was of course Gregory Bateson, William Bateso...This was of course Gregory Bateson, William Bateson's son.Alan Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1152941371887707842006-07-14T22:29:00.000-07:002006-07-14T22:29:00.000-07:00Onve again Falan Ox shows his profound lack of com...Onve again Falan Ox shows his profound lack of common knowledge and ordinary sense.<BR/><BR/>It is quite impossible for Bateson and Dawkins to ever have communicated with one another as Willim Bateson died long before Dawkins was born.<BR/><BR/>"Stifle yourself, Dingbat."<BR/>Archie Bunker<BR/><BR/>It is hard to believe isn't it?<BR/><BR/>I love it so!JohnADavisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273254635432654886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1152919995969860322006-07-14T16:33:00.000-07:002006-07-14T16:33:00.000-07:00It is not surprising that Grasse might not agree w...<I>It is not surprising that Grasse might not agree with Goldschmidt and Schindewolf, Germans, Berg, a Russian and <B>Bateson</B> and Punnett, Englishmen, when all three nations had humiliated the French in war after war.</I><BR/><BR/>I suspect your grasp of European history is not quite as powerful as that of evolutionary biology. <BR/><BR/>I note that Bateson and Dawkins had some interchange of ideas which Dawkins refers to in "The Extended Phenotype" (see p98). He quotes Bateson: <I>"Indeed, using Dawkins' own style of teleological argument one could claim that the bird is the nest's way of making another nest."</I>Alan Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1152714945694091582006-07-12T07:35:00.000-07:002006-07-12T07:35:00.000-07:00Incidentally I don't have a "creed." I have a bran...Incidentally I don't have a "creed." I have a brand new hypothesis in full accord with everything we really know about the history of life on this planet.<BR/><BR/>"Science commits suicide when she adopts a creed."<BR/>Thomas Henry Huxley<BR/><BR/>So much for the slowest yet surest form of suicide known - neoDarwinism.<BR/><BR/>Naturally -<BR/><BR/>I love it so!JohnADavisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273254635432654886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1152714613842513042006-07-12T07:30:00.000-07:002006-07-12T07:30:00.000-07:00Pott L. Scage and Falan Ox, both "prescribed" lose...Pott L. Scage and Falan Ox, both "prescribed" losers.<BR/><BR/>Since when does any author have to agree with my conclusions in order to be referenced by me? Pierre Grasse was the most prominent French zoologist of his generation as was Leo Berg the most prominent Russian one of his. It is not surprising that Grasse might not agree with Goldschmidt and Schindewolf, Germans, Berg, a Russian and Bateson and Punnett, Englishmen, when all three nations had humiliated the French in war after war. There has always been a strong nationalist flavor in evolutionary writings and, unlike Bateson, Punnett, Berg and Goldschmidt, I suspect Grasse let that influence his writings to a certain degree. None of the others ever did as near as I can determine. Nevertheless, he remains one the most effective critics of the Darwinian fairy tale and one of my most valued sources.<BR/><BR/>Darwinism never had anything to do with creative evolution, something all of my sources stood in solid agreement on. It remains the greatest hoax in the history of science, dwarfing both the Phlogiston of Chemistry and the Ether of Physics. That any objective observer could still accept any aspect of it is unthinkable. That obviously excludes both Pott L. Scage and Falan Ox, both of whom so obviously still buy it lock, stock and barrel.<BR/><BR/>It is hard to believe isn't it?<BR/><BR/>"Darwinians of the world unite. You have nothing to lose but your natural selection."<BR/>after Karl Marx<BR/><BR/>Needless to say -<BR/><BR/>I love it so!JohnADavisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273254635432654886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1152203228401854692006-07-06T09:27:00.000-07:002006-07-06T09:27:00.000-07:00John,You are testing the limit of "my mother would...John,<BR/><BR/>You are testing the limit of "my mother wouldn't like it" with that last comment.Alan Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1152117115845493522006-07-05T09:31:00.000-07:002006-07-05T09:31:00.000-07:00"There is absolutely nothing in Grasse's writings ..."There is absolutely nothing in Grasse's writings that is incompatibele with the pEH and, as I just responded on your most recent thread, much that does."<BR/><BR/>Of course. That is always the way, is it not? EVERYTHING supports the fringe claim, and nothing can be seen as against it. It is just so... right.<BR/><BR/>I guess the fact that Grasse saw nothing in chromosome rearrangements as having a big impact on speciation is just irrelevant, even though that is a big part of Davison's views.Doppelgangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019994267093407424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1152099794526751842006-07-05T04:43:00.000-07:002006-07-05T04:43:00.000-07:00I recomeend halitosis and every other anonymous co...I recomeend halitosis and every other anonymous cowardly loony tune go to EvC "showcase" to observe how this scientist deals with ideologues wherever he finds them. <BR/><BR/>I also recommend that all visit my blog to see the depths to which jujuquisp has descended in order to sabotage my blog. He is without question the unwiped ass of the internet right on a par with Spravid Dinger, another two-faced lying hypocrit. No wonder they hate each other's guts. They are cast from the same egocentric, sociopathic mold.<BR/><BR/>Needless to say -<BR/><BR/>I love it so!JohnADavisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273254635432654886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1152034606413120622006-07-04T10:36:00.000-07:002006-07-04T10:36:00.000-07:00If Ox is stupid enough to allow my presence here t...<I>If Ox is stupid enough to allow my presence here that is his problem not mine.</I><BR/><BR/>John, don't worry. You are not a problem; you are an experiment.Alan Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1152015263542361182006-07-04T05:14:00.000-07:002006-07-04T05:14:00.000-07:00That goes for Pott L. Scage and Spravid Dinger as ...That goes for Pott L. Scage and Spravid Dinger as well!JohnADavisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273254635432654886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1152015184708341612006-07-04T05:13:00.000-07:002006-07-04T05:13:00.000-07:00Who ever said everyone had to share my views? Ther...Who ever said everyone had to share my views? <BR/><BR/>There is absolutely nothing in Grasse's writings that is incompatibele with the pEH and, as I just responded on your most recent thread, much that does. <BR/><BR/>As for both Falan Ox and jujuquisp, Keep you sorry degenerate selves out of my blog because if either of you show up again you will only be deleted. Got that? Write that down.<BR/><BR/>If Ox is stupid enough to allow my presence here that is his problem not mine. I always did suspect he had a masochistic streak. He keeps on proving it.<BR/><BR/>Needless to say -<BR/><BR/>I love it so!JohnADavisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273254635432654886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1151993597725649502006-07-03T23:13:00.000-07:002006-07-03T23:13:00.000-07:00John,What do you ay to the suggestion from Scott (...John,<BR/><BR/>What do you ay to the suggestion from Scott (who has the advantage of having read "Evolution of Living Things"), that Grassé did not share your views on origins.Alan Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1151993018923798012006-07-03T23:03:00.000-07:002006-07-03T23:03:00.000-07:00Just trying to be consistent, jujuquisp. I wouldn'...Just trying to be consistent, jujuquisp. I wouldn't want anyone thinking they are being treated unfairly. I was applying the rule, "don't say anything that I would feel embarrassed explaining to my mother!"Alan Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1151966502476634612006-07-03T15:41:00.000-07:002006-07-03T15:41:00.000-07:00I have never found it necessary to apologize for a...I have never found it necessary to apologize for anything I have either published or presented on idiotic internet forums like this one. jujuquiap is an intellectual and moral pervert and Falan Ox is a fan of Dichard Rawkins, the biggest phony in the history of science. So much for each of them. Pott L. Scage is also still living in the fantasy world of random mutation and natural selection. It is only natural that they should all gravitate to this flame pit, just another atheist "groupthink," like Panda's Thumb and EvC. What a trio of losers they really are, just like "The Three Stooges" of the evolutionary literature, Mernst Ayr, Gephen J. Stould and Dichard Rawkins.<BR/><BR/>It is hard to believe isn't it?<BR/><BR/>Naturally -<BR/><BR/>I love it so!JohnADavisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273254635432654886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1151953420020021412006-07-03T12:03:00.000-07:002006-07-03T12:03:00.000-07:00jujuquispIgnore away, but please try not to use an...jujuquisp<BR/><BR/>Ignore away, but please try not to use any more offensive language. Any stronger and I will delete.Alan Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1151950577933524382006-07-03T11:16:00.000-07:002006-07-03T11:16:00.000-07:00I just had a read through the thread that doppelga...I just had a read through the <A HREF="http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=5&t=230&m=1" REL="nofollow">thread</A> that doppelganger linked to.<BR/><BR/>Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose!<BR/><BR/>It makes interesting reading. You really don't change, do you, John.Alan Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1151948771847391242006-07-03T10:46:00.000-07:002006-07-03T10:46:00.000-07:00I also just told off well named secondclass over a...<I>I also just told off well named secondclass over at "brainstorms."</I><BR/><BR/>John,<BR/><BR/>Are you referring to <A HREF="http://www.iscid.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000626;p=9" REL="nofollow">this</A> thread? It seems to me you interject a few non-sequiturs, which make no useful contribution to the discussion about the second law of thermodynamics. You would appear less ridiculous if you confined your remarks at ISCID to subjects in which you have some knowledge.<BR/><BR/>In any event, I doubt secondclass is much bothered by your attack, if that is what it was meant to be, about the same as being savaged by a dead sheep*.<BR/><BR/>*Denis Healey referring to Geoffrey Howe, who attacked him ineffectually in a parliamentary debate.<BR/><BR/>But I am pleased to see you back, and sorry it didn't work out at EvC. They don't realise what a charming and erudite contributor you can be when you try. I was fascinated by some OT remarks you made once about the Golden Mean. I can't now recall where I came across them.Alan Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1151943623918232312006-07-03T09:20:00.000-07:002006-07-03T09:20:00.000-07:00I see Pott L. Scage has now surfaced here again. W...I see Pott L. Scage has now surfaced here again. What a homozygous jerk. I imagine he is a big Dichard Rawkins fan as well. Right Pott L? Why didn't you mouth off at EvC when I welcomed you, you spineless coward? It is too late now as I dispensed with that whole mindless "groupthink" yesterday evening when they refused to agree to my very reasonable terms. EvC, like Panda's Thumb, is just one more Darwinian Alamo populated by unpublished, mindless, intellectual dwarfs not one of whom ever had an original idea in his entire life. <BR/><BR/>It is hard to believe isn't it?<BR/><BR/>I also just told off well named secondclass over at "brainstorms."<BR/>They will probably give me hell for it but I couldn't care less.<BR/><BR/>Who is next I wonder? Don't be shy. God knows I'm not!<BR/><BR/>Needless to say - <BR/><BR/>I love it so!JohnADavisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273254635432654886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1151934672517042442006-07-03T06:51:00.000-07:002006-07-03T06:51:00.000-07:00http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&...http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=5&t=230&m=1Doppelgangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019994267093407424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-1151923377707465392006-07-03T03:42:00.000-07:002006-07-03T03:42:00.000-07:00Well folks, since EvC has apparently refusd to gra...Well folks, since EvC has apparently refusd to grant me ordinary posting rights, I have abandoned any further communication with them at "showcase." They obviously invited me there to embarrass me only to succeed in making perfect fools of themselves in the process. That goes for this hog trough too, run as it is by Falan Ox, a proudly confessed Dichard Rawkins fan!<BR/><BR/>It is hard to believe isn't it?<BR/><BR/>Naturally - <BR/><BR/>I love it so!JohnADavisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273254635432654886noreply@blogger.com