tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post679854747417506920..comments2023-05-14T05:58:07.794-07:00Comments on Languedoc Diary: A neutral venue: The Explanatory Filter, a useful process?Alan Foxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-18718553253104696672007-07-19T15:28:00.000-07:002007-07-19T15:28:00.000-07:00secondclass opines:The EF requires that all natura...<I>secondclass opines:<BR/>The EF requires that all natural hypotheses be eliminated.</I><BR/><BR/>Actually, it's Dembski who opines that, and it makes sense. Logically inferring something by elimination entails explicitly or implicitly eliminating all other options.<BR/><BR/><I>That is false. Science does not do proof and that would amount to a proof.</I><BR/><BR/>Only if you think that eliminating a hypothesis requires that it be strictly proven false. If that's what you think, then how do you explain Dembski's frequent talk of eliminating hypotheses?<BR/><BR/><I>All the EF requires is a reasonable inference based on the best available data.<BR/><BR/>That is how science works. Then future research can either confirm or falsify that inference.</I><BR/><BR/>I never said anything about strict proof. Dembski, however, claims that "whenever the Explanatory Filter attributes design, it does so correctly." You might want to take that up with him.R0bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12140319137607912834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-64049519388851283662007-07-18T13:18:00.000-07:002007-07-18T13:18:00.000-07:00secondclass opines:The EF requires that all natura...secondclass opines:<BR/><I>The EF requires that all natural hypotheses be eliminated.</I><BR/><BR/>That is false. Science does not do proof and that would amount to a proof.<BR/><BR/>All the EF requires is a reasonable inference based on the best available data.<BR/><BR/>That is how science works. Then future research can either confirm or falsify that inference.<BR/><BR/>And if ID can falsify the ToE then it is scientific. Or are you (Chris Hyland) saying that pseudo-science can refute science?<BR/><BR/>Ya see I know that in order to refute something considered scientific it requires a valid scientific research program.Joe Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305194278121208230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-72470956059562920872007-02-12T15:05:00.000-08:002007-02-12T15:05:00.000-08:00Dembski has all but abandoned pushing the EF in re...<I>Dembski has all but abandoned pushing the EF in recent times - guess he's had enough embarrassment over this turd. </I><BR/><BR/>*Snicker* Occam, you just gave me an idea...Kristinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04350976542988396333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-5241228274947318662007-02-09T19:22:00.000-08:002007-02-09T19:22:00.000-08:00Hey, NBA dude, did you read any of the links I pro...Hey, NBA dude, did you read any of the links I provided? How would you characterize those blogs?blipeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16888921194651901395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-36028832842775967632007-02-09T15:55:00.000-08:002007-02-09T15:55:00.000-08:00Jordan said:I am a college graduate so you can sav...Jordan said:<BR/><I>I am a college graduate so you can save your insanly arrogant rants.</I><BR/><BR/>Gotta be BJU for sure... or maybe Patriot.<BR/><BR/>You snagged a good one Alan.IAMBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12886716927402589556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-32923834795090412092007-02-09T15:31:00.000-08:002007-02-09T15:31:00.000-08:00You really are as dumb as you type, aren't you?You really are as dumb as you type, aren't you?JanieBellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05639007027260276087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-37125296046261182412007-02-09T14:42:00.000-08:002007-02-09T14:42:00.000-08:00whatever alan, please use one name onlywhatever alan, please use one name onlyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09539732071554392080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-91664686598196754902007-02-09T14:17:00.000-08:002007-02-09T14:17:00.000-08:00Care to point out an example, or are you just goin...Care to point out an example, or are you just going to make wild, unsupported assertions and baseless accusations?<BR/><BR/>Oh wait, I forgot. You're an IDjit.<BR/><BR/>Forget I asked.JanieBellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05639007027260276087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-69189718713940343822007-02-09T13:23:00.000-08:002007-02-09T13:23:00.000-08:00The people are not taking to kindly to you....The people are not taking to kindly to you....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09539732071554392080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-77525806175895598772007-02-09T13:22:00.001-08:002007-02-09T13:22:00.001-08:00shouldnt I meanshouldnt I meanAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09539732071554392080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-10396538861427530282007-02-09T13:22:00.000-08:002007-02-09T13:22:00.000-08:00Alan Fox you should spread racial and religion hat...Alan Fox you should spread racial and religion hate in popular web forums....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09539732071554392080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-60593898231323376922007-02-09T13:20:00.000-08:002007-02-09T13:20:00.000-08:00right back at yaright back at yaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09539732071554392080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-84406917089075894722007-02-09T12:45:00.000-08:002007-02-09T12:45:00.000-08:00Oh this is too good. Jordan. It's not paranoia if ...Oh this is too good. Jordan. It's not paranoia if <I>they</I> really are out to get you.Rev. BigDumbChimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04375916659207181335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-9442863959479548802007-02-09T12:01:00.000-08:002007-02-09T12:01:00.000-08:00Dembski's propoganda will never flood this site fo...Dembski's propoganda will never flood this site for a simple reason that would dawn on you if you took the time to either:<BR/><BR/>1. Read the rest of the site<BR/><BR/>2. Interact with IDiots and really pay attention to what drives them.<BR/><BR/>IDiots don't stick around long when actually presented with facts that they don't like. When in an environment that they can't censor, manipulate, and otherwise control, they run away.<BR/><BR/>I think that the indelible evidence of this is the crown jewel of Alan's little experiment with this blog.blipeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16888921194651901395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-71856777811695427822007-02-09T11:56:00.000-08:002007-02-09T11:56:00.000-08:00Jordan, that would have to be one whole big slice ...Jordan, that would have to be one whole big slice of propaganda...<BR/><BR/>but... what the heck... bring it on.Alan Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16470368958109056177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-62513306225419134492007-02-09T11:54:00.000-08:002007-02-09T11:54:00.000-08:00Short overview of debate:Intelligent Design Creati...Short overview of debate:<BR/><BR/>Intelligent Design Creationists (IDiots) believe that the Theory of Evolution (in about 931 of their own varyingly bad definitions of it) is wrong because Jesus didn't mention it.<BR/><BR/>Scientists point out that this is not really a terribly rational rationale for disputing the actual evidence of the Theory of Evolution.<BR/><BR/>IDiots then say, "Oh yeah, you've got poopy in your pants."<BR/><BR/>If you think that I am lying or oversimplifying things, have a look yourself.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="www.uncommondescent.com" REL="nofollow">Bill Dembski's Uncommon Descent, a blog about banning people who have rational thoughts</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="www.intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Intelligent Reasoning: Joe Gallien's wonder musings on the stupidity of everyone in the world, himself excepted</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="www.stoplyingtous.com" REL="nofollow">Stop Lying to Us: the touching quest for meaning and the means to topple evil, western culture by a Dembski research assistant (now defunct, I'm afraid)</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="www.overwhelmingevidence.com" REL="nofollow">Overwhelming Evidence: the touching quest of a bunch of 40-somethings to find their own inner coolness by convincing no fewer (and, interestingly, no more than) 2 actual teenagers that ID is the wave of the future</A><BR/><BR/>Happy reading; laughter is good for the soul.blipeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16888921194651901395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-72732772805160139142007-02-09T11:51:00.000-08:002007-02-09T11:51:00.000-08:00Before you answer decide whether you want to moder...Before you answer decide whether you want to moderate this site like a nazi. Because if you give me a smart ass comment this site is going to be flooded with so much Dembski propoganda that you will start to believe him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-70105461108065311792007-02-09T11:38:00.000-08:002007-02-09T11:38:00.000-08:00Without reading this stuff in depth most people wo...Without reading this stuff in depth most people would not get a good understanding of it. I am a college graduate so you can save your insanly arrogant rants. Do you think you could, without smugging my screen up with your self-love, give a short overvierw of what all this debate and research is about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-90391380359757417222007-02-09T11:18:00.000-08:002007-02-09T11:18:00.000-08:00OMG, I'm in frickin' tears!idjit.OMG, I'm in frickin' tears!<BR/><BR/>idjit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-64503784138554959752007-02-09T11:04:00.000-08:002007-02-09T11:04:00.000-08:00Jordan, you're managing to push Joe G. into the re...Jordan, you're managing to push Joe G. into the realms of bright commenter. Nicely done.<BR/><BR/>Oh, let me translate:<BR/><BR/><I>Jorda, your making Joeg. look liek an elitist sciencetist, who is also a aethiest, and makes good comments with research adn also nows smart people at colleges and things. WTG.</I>blipeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16888921194651901395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-15237642920921698662007-02-09T10:56:00.000-08:002007-02-09T10:56:00.000-08:00Why is their so much hatred and deception between ...Why is their so much hatred and deception between the two disputing sides? Is the terminology in in conversations about this topic purposly vauge to block out the mainstream public for having a understanding of it??<BR/><BR/><BR/>I know you guys are 1000 times smarter then me, because you must be getting seriously outclassed to actually have to work so hard to convince people of the exsistance of evolution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-21173423468045292002007-02-09T10:21:00.000-08:002007-02-09T10:21:00.000-08:00How is A.I. used to support either side of your cl...How is A.I. used to support either side of your claims?<BR/><BR/><BR/>Do you do studies on the the people on net space? Such as manipulating the envirorment to see how people will react?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-82903363512295198932007-02-09T10:06:00.000-08:002007-02-09T10:06:00.000-08:00Your def my guy...all this BS is far too familar.Your def my guy...all this BS is far too familar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-47890247528542357342007-02-09T10:01:00.000-08:002007-02-09T10:01:00.000-08:00The why did you take the time to have a conversati...The why did you take the time to have a conversation with me pretending to a be 17 year old girl, and then post a fake conversation between the two of your on the site?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23603046.post-77246998074151229032007-02-09T09:30:00.000-08:002007-02-09T09:30:00.000-08:00Hey Jordan,You do realise that Janie's blog says i...Hey Jordan,<BR/><BR/>You do realise that Janie's blog says in big letters in the upper right-hand corner: THAT SHE IS FAKE.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for learning to read. You're busted (with an apostrophe).<BR/><BR/>As to Joe running, I'm shocked. And disappointed. He's usually boring, but he came up with a true gem here. Nicely done, all.blipeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16888921194651901395noreply@blogger.com